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Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Tue Aug 11, 2015 3:58 am

I'll give the Scorpio a try, well, it is more like I'll give my skills a try working the Scorpio.

Initial image from the repository as reference:
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:06 am

Couple of things I started working on:
1. Adding shapes to legs
2. Removing all leg at the left and creating a new version (they were out of good position and proportion)
3. Adjusted the torso position, more balanced
4. Slim body, not too fat
5. Pincers removed, I'll work a different layer on that for animation, also I don't like the crab style pincers, Will try a Scorpio like version
6. Removed the pink, I think that was done for reference in the original concept
7. Added detail to pincers on jaws
8. Colored basic blue for eyes, just for reference
9. Some other basic detail on the tail, still a lot to do

Next:
everything, from finish the wire to color, texture, a few more spikes if possible
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:26 am

I thought that the original shape/proportions of the scorpion were just fine. Of course you're free to make any improvements you see fit. The work with this sprite that we needed was adding additional detail and coloring for the most part. I do like the additional details you added to the legs.

Also: these types of sprites are not animated. It would be far too costly to animate such large sprites (believe me: in the past we had really large character sprites and they were way to costly to animate). We also don't have any support in the game at the moment for animated enemy sprites. I'd rather invest our artwork efforts in places that need it more than trying to be over ambitious with enemy sprites.

Having said all that, I'm really glad you're looking into fixing this, because it was one of the biggest eyesores of the past release. :approve: And I think it looks great so far. Just make sure to add those pincers back in at some point, because without them the scorpion doesn't look nearly as menacing.
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Tue Aug 11, 2015 2:57 pm

I can stick to the original if the feeling is that the new version is not a good fit.
Pincers are definitely a most, but I wanted to make a base and then work different versions, a bit more aggressive, not laying on the ground and not covering the head, I'm working on the first version right now.

Like this:
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Tue Aug 11, 2015 4:55 pm

Go for it. :approve: I don't have problems with the new version; I just wanted to let you know that I didn't have any problems with the old one either. But the one thing I definitely don't want to do is restrict others creative freedom. If this is something you feel strongly about and needs to change, by all means have at it.
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:08 pm

rough version, not sure about this one, but here,
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Tue Aug 11, 2015 8:18 pm

I think the claw arm needs to be thicker. If you look at your reference picture of that bark scorpion, the claw arms are noticeably thicker and stronger than the legs. I think the claw on the left side of the screen would look better if it was pointing down or toward the viewer, kind of similar to the claw you did on the right (which is great). That left claw seems like its out there and isn't really directed toward anything, so it feels less menacing to me, you know? When scorpions use their claws to catch prey, they are usually looking right at their target, so it feels weird to have a claw that isn't pointed in the same general direction as the eyes.


Those are my opinions, anyway. :shrug:
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Wed Aug 12, 2015 2:44 am

Yes, I agree. I'm working on the arms and the pincer direction. Also I started a bit the coloring and some texture.

Not finished, its only to show work, and get love or hate :)
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Wed Aug 12, 2015 8:18 pm

Looking much better. :approve: The biggest eyesore to me in this version is the top of the claw is so bulky and the bottom part of it looks pretty weak/fragile in comparison.
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Wed Aug 12, 2015 11:23 pm

Got it, I did it based on this concept, http://www.thetopfree.com/d/file/free-p ... d-7338.jpg
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Thu Aug 13, 2015 4:02 am

:twitch: Thanks for the nightmares I'll have tonight :ohnoes:
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Atypikal_Arkitect » Thu Aug 13, 2015 11:08 pm

Good stuff :)
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:04 am

I would like to know if you rather stick to black and make it like a real scorpion. If you like it I'll continue this way, if not, then I can try something different.
I've been working just a few minutes every day, but hoping to do it faster during the weekend (if everything goes smooth).
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Sat Aug 15, 2015 1:19 am

I like the colors you chose better. Having it all black would make it very difficult to see the details. Love how it's coming so far, keep it up! :)
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Sat Aug 15, 2015 6:24 pm

Some advance, still way to go...
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Tue Aug 18, 2015 4:40 pm

Sorry for the delay, I've been busy with R.L. but I'm working to do as much as possible today, will post something later
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Roots » Tue Aug 18, 2015 5:31 pm

No worries, take your time.
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Sun Aug 23, 2015 4:14 am

Finally got some time to work just a bit, I'm testing the textures, and adding some details.
Legs on the right side are done, stinger is done, testing a silver texture on tale, fixing small details here and there
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby Atypikal_Arkitect » Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:40 pm

I'm liking the transition to bronze. Quite Dune-esque :)
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Re: Goliath Scorpion Sprite

Postby AxlTrozz » Wed Aug 26, 2015 8:10 pm

Another small progress..I'm trying to build momentum so i can finish at once :D
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